tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post1605560643472355862..comments2024-03-18T20:38:51.670+11:00Comments on steadyaku47: All of us, in our hearts of hearts know that the Sultan of Sulu has a case to be heard and our Malaysian government has to deal with – if they had not dealt with it a long time ago, then now!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-28454465034047634292013-03-07T19:02:10.399+11:002013-03-07T19:02:10.399+11:00Somebody (probably a lawyer) in Philippines wrote ...Somebody (probably a lawyer) in Philippines wrote this in the Phillippines Inquirer:<br />ICJ judgement on the Ligitan & Sipadan dispute between Malaysia & Indonesia.<br /><br />Judge Frank agrees with the judgement of the court and with its reasoning. <br />He adds, however that the Philippine application is also barred by a supervening legal principle the <br />right of non-self-governing people to exercise their right of self-determination. <br />This right has been confirmed by treaties, judgments of this Court and resolutions of the General Assembly.<br />It is, quite simply, pre-eminent in modern international law.<br /><br />In the instance of North Borneo’s decolonization, Judge Franck believes, <br />this right was implemented in 1963 through elections observed by the representative of <br />the United Nations Secretary-General, who certified the FAIRNESS and CONCLUSIVENESS of the popular choice made by <br />the voters in favour of federation with Malaysia. <br />This was acted upon by the United Nations General Assembly’s Committee on Non-Self-Governing Territories.<br /><br />In Judge Franck’s view, the Court is bound to take judicial notice of the momentous international legal<br />development brought about by the adoption and implementation of the right of self-determination.<br />Accordingly, WHATEVER INTEREST THE PHILIPPINE MIGHT HAVE INHERITED FROM SULTAN SULU – EVEN WERE IT TO BE <br />FULLY DEMONSTRABLE – cannot now be held to prevail over a validated exercise of so FUNDAMENTAL A RIGHT. <br />Since the claim is barred by law, the Philippines cannot possibly be said to have a legal interest in further ventilating it in this forum.<br />(page 208)<br /><br />"The point of law is quite simple, but ultimately basic to the international rule of law.<br />It is this: historic title, no matter how persuasively claimed on the basis of old legal instruments and<br />exercises of authority, cannot - except in the most extraordinary circumstances -<br />prevail in law over the rights of non-self-governing people to claim independence and<br />establish their sovereignty through the exercise of bona fide self-determination."<br />(page 652)penangoikosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00129451537588888859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-85338470716590666082013-03-07T18:28:21.145+11:002013-03-07T18:28:21.145+11:00what's this, dirtying already muddy waters ??
... what's this, dirtying already muddy waters ??<br /><br />UMNO MEDIA ZOOMS in on Jamalul Kiram: He is a fake Sulu sultan - family insider<br /><br />KUALA LUMPUR- Jamalul Kiram III, who is masquerading as the sultan of Sulu and whose followers have intruded into Sabah and killed Malaysian police personnel, cannot lay claim to the defunct title, according to a source familiar with the goings-on in the family.<br /><br />It is, therefore, wrong for him to assert to be the heir to the last sultan of Sulu, Jamalul Kiram II, who died in 1936.<br /><br />Jamalul Kiram III was never a legitimate descendant of the nine "rightful heirs" of Jamalul Kiram II that was drawn up in the 1939 'Macaskie Judgement' to be eligible to receive cession payments, following the ceding of Sabah, then known as North Borneo, to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC).<br /><br />The source, who has indepth knowledge of the Sulu "sultanate" household and its history, stressed that according to the family tree, although Jamalul Kiram III was a member of the household, he was never a descendent of the nine principal heirs who had the right to the cession payments.<br /><br />"When Jamalul Kiram II died in 1936, he left no direct heir, and BNBC also stopped the cession payments. So, the nine had gone to court as a group to recognise their right to receive the annual payment," the source said.<br /><br />In 1939, the Chief Justice of the High Court of North Borneo, Justice Macaskie, ruled in the heirs' favour and the annual payment resumed. The Malaysian Government has continued with the payment, following the formation of the federation.<br /><br />In 2011, descendants of the nine principal heirs to Jamalul Kiram II obtained an order from a Sulu court to recognise them as the legitimate direct descendents to the nine principal heirs.<br /><br />This second generation of the heirs are Dayang Dayang Piandao Taj-Mahal Kiram-Tarsum Nuqui, Putli Nurhima Kiram-Forman, Siti Ayesha K.H Sampang, Sulatan Fuad A. Kiram, Dayang-Dayang Sheramar T. Kiram, Princess Permaisuri Kiram Guerson and Sitti Jenny K.A Sampang.<br /><br />"As such, he (Jamalul Kiram III) cannot claim to be an heir or descendent of any of the nine principal heirs," the source contended.<br /><br />-- Bernama<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-33070285902646684292013-03-07T12:37:39.332+11:002013-03-07T12:37:39.332+11:001) The Sulu claim is not justifiable
NOW
2) T...1) The Sulu claim is not justifiable <br /> NOW<br /><br />2) The "terrorists" that is waging the guerrilla warfare had roots from the MNLF fraction - which was trained y Malaysian in Sabah soil, previously to fight against Manila government<br /><br />3) It is more like a boomerang - the frankenstein you created that will come back to destroy you<br /><br />4) It is also due to Mahathir "Project IC" diving hundred of thousands to the Sulu/Suluk that diluted Sabahan non-Muslim to allow bumiputras to UMNO to win the election<br /><br />6) And now you want to say to ask UMNO to resolve this matter? How ironic and how absurd!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com