tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post8864967641157322059..comments2024-03-18T20:38:51.670+11:00Comments on steadyaku47: Cina Pergi Mampus!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-22939879138143298892010-11-19T16:31:09.165+11:002010-11-19T16:31:09.165+11:00Guess what, everyone has good intentions mostly. T...Guess what, everyone has good intentions mostly. The problem is they misuse it from time to time. In my days, Malays are derogatorily called "Belacan", and this I always hear from my non-Malay teachers. The good thing is I never hear the Malay teachers utter derogatory names on non-Malays except only the usual Cina(in those days it is spelt China) and Keling!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-9900942061926496892010-11-14T15:12:49.813+11:002010-11-14T15:12:49.813+11:00"Pergi mampus" in Bahasa simply means &q..."Pergi mampus" in Bahasa simply means "go to hell" or a crude alternative meaning of "you go and die". It is constantly used in Malay society during arguments or even when parents scolding their children...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-4003999849237385962010-11-11T20:18:29.641+11:002010-11-11T20:18:29.641+11:00I am chinese, and I am rather embarrassed by the c...I am chinese, and I am rather embarrassed by the comments of some of my chinese-malaysian countrymen.<br /><br />Guys, please read carefully before you flame Abang Hussein.<br /><br />And dear Abang Hussein, thank you for an excellent piece. Enjoyed reading this article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-24344311378305405872010-10-14T05:29:37.905+11:002010-10-14T05:29:37.905+11:00I strongly subscribe to openness. After 53 years o...I strongly subscribe to openness. After 53 years of independence, we should be matured enough to sit down and discuss everything under the sun in civility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-58023888981916964632010-10-14T00:27:27.682+11:002010-10-14T00:27:27.682+11:00I think direct translation of langguages tend to l...I think direct translation of langguages tend to lose the real sense of the meaning ...."pergi mampus"..in english term means "go to hell".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-45769087450217535212010-10-12T16:57:20.883+11:002010-10-12T16:57:20.883+11:00I think for those Chinese who hardly interact with...I think for those Chinese who hardly interact with Malays or not proficient in Malay language, it is hard for them to understand the difference between "Mati" and "Mampus."<br /><br />The Malays have two different terms for death - mati and mampus (which is derogatory). From my interaction with the Malays since primary school, the Malays will use "mampus" when referring to the death of non-Malay or non-Muslim but "mati" when referring to the death of a Malay or a Muslim.<br /><br />When I told my classmates that father is "mati," they will say my father is "mampus" because he was not a Malay/Muslim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-20908424806742275752010-10-11T04:24:18.190+11:002010-10-11T04:24:18.190+11:00Rude way of telling the fact! "Orang cina&quo...Rude way of telling the fact! "Orang cina" you must understand the content before make any comment!<br /><br />Another SAVE PLACE for non-Malays to live safely in Malaysia is live in big group like in Pening.<br /><br />RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-81173951507438880352010-10-10T13:07:33.655+11:002010-10-10T13:07:33.655+11:00Get rid of the mckks the mrsms the exclusive for m...Get rid of the mckks the mrsms the exclusive for malays college,the chinese, indians vernacular schools. Then only, hopefully we'll be thereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-88227782860195492922010-10-10T12:46:27.419+11:002010-10-10T12:46:27.419+11:00I believe our friend is only using the so called h...I believe our friend is only using the so called harsh title to attract readers....which is good. (Some readers really misunderstood the content).Otherwise,people may not even wanna read or pay attention.I know all of us from both sides of the ailes are exposed to racism from the very young age.However it is not too late to reverse it if there is a political will on the part of the govt.En Hussein,this is a good start and do keep the momentum going for the sake of humanity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-38701797224717644502010-10-10T07:56:28.460+11:002010-10-10T07:56:28.460+11:00dear sir,
dont u think that yr title is bit harsh?...dear sir,<br />dont u think that yr title is bit harsh? especially now is the height of racial tension in our country? <br />for me, i find "cina pergi mampus" same as saying "malay babi". i surely u would feel irritated and annoyed by this word. although yr content is sound and sensible, but once i read yr title, my mind has a perception this is a racist article although at the end it turns out to be other way round. <br />if u think this title is a good way to attract ppl's attention, i would strongly disagree with u. <br />i fed up with all the racism in malaysia. i would prefer to build from zero in other country if same problem persists. <br />racism? why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-79109739346239835282010-10-10T05:23:24.426+11:002010-10-10T05:23:24.426+11:00It is very good for the country to have such thing...It is very good for the country to have such things brought out into the open and discussed.<br /><br />Being from Sabah, I was unaware of the antagonism between the races in Malaya until I went to college and university in England where I met people from Malaya. We don't seem to have the same situation here and I suspect similarly in Sarawak.<br /><br />It appears there is a chicken and egg conundrum in Malaya.<br /><br />I won't be too bothered by some inane comments if I were you. I've noticed that a lot of bolehland commenters don't understand what they read and shoot from the hip without engaging the brain.<br /><br />Still on the subject of nomenclature, you may be aware that all people beyond the borders of the former Chinese empire were referred to as “kui” (usually translated as devil but I think the more correct term is barbarian). This may sound insulting but the term “kui lau” (devil man) is actually a honorific. Only members of the once powerful British Empire are “kui lau” and being described as such means that the person is from a rich, powerful and technologically advanced empire. The rest are simply plain barbarians such as French barbarian or Dutch barbarian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-48906097999095597452010-10-10T03:36:33.455+11:002010-10-10T03:36:33.455+11:00Why yes? Its a battle of heart and mind. But for u...Why yes? Its a battle of heart and mind. But for us in the light there is still and always hope. HasbunAllah wa Ni’mal Wakil<br />I got rainbow too.zen nonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08183622471448223538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-29837331484185108932010-10-10T02:37:05.368+11:002010-10-10T02:37:05.368+11:00RACISM and racists. They are everywhere on this pl...RACISM and racists. They are everywhere on this planet earth. Hardly surprising at all. But is every Malay a racist? Every Chinese a racist? Every Indian, Sabahan, Sarawakian, etc..? I doubt so. There are certainly people from among all our races who reject racism - both young and old - even TODAY. I dont think the people are as gullible or blind. But what that's not surprising is, like you said, umno being the cause and culprit, and rightly said, for its own evil political agenda. To rule a nation, yet to divide the people, instilling hatred and pitting them against each other, this certainly is not the so-called leaders you need to lead the country. They will be NO progress. 53 years old history has totally proven this, but this country has been impoverished, plundered and destroyed. Who bear the brunt of all these? The very same poor Malays suffering poverty who bought into all the lies of their ketuanan heroes (who live like tycoons and kings), lies about other races stealing from them and depriving their rights. (Mind you, we have not even talk about the things stolen from the Orang Aslis). Racism is a two-edged sword. You cannot use it without hurting yourself and own people. History has proven it. Cina mampus, Melayu mampus, India mampus, Orang putih mampus, semua akan mampus juga satu hari nanti.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-25956688282459076002010-10-10T01:22:50.482+11:002010-10-10T01:22:50.482+11:00Sir Hussein,it seems some racist idiots still pour...Sir Hussein,it seems some racist idiots still pouring racist comments on your article...i say to them...PEGI MAMPUS to all racist!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-25149618232098593192010-10-10T00:36:26.739+11:002010-10-10T00:36:26.739+11:00Of all the creatures God created, politicians are ...Of all the creatures God created, politicians are the most poisonous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-31832458625765343862010-10-10T00:13:30.347+11:002010-10-10T00:13:30.347+11:00I am a chinese from a malay kampung from Kedah. I ...I am a chinese from a malay kampung from Kedah. I heard the phrase "itu Cina pergi mampus" or "itu melayu pergi mampus" quite often during my young times. It is said between my parents and the malays uncle during certain conversation talking abt someone else.....so I guess if one is non-racist at heart, the phrase means nothing..it just an expression...if one are racist, everything you said means something to them...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-54408333233294161142010-10-09T23:45:24.895+11:002010-10-09T23:45:24.895+11:00Dear Hussein,
I understand the reason you wrote t...Dear Hussein,<br /><br />I understand the reason you wrote this piece. Let us not forget their plan B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-70391891682862096522010-10-09T23:41:53.438+11:002010-10-09T23:41:53.438+11:00Agree with you wholeheartedly that this mindset is...Agree with you wholeheartedly that this mindset is still around in some Malays and definitely the older generation Chinese too. <br /><br />I'm Chinese and I am a product of Mahathir's education system. "Melayu pergi mampus" was not far from the surface of my thoughts in my younger days.<br /><br />In Form 3 and Form 5, I see Malay classmates who had worse results than me bundled off overseas, those with worse results than the worst bundled off to ITM. The Malays who barely passed their SPM became my classmates in Form 6. <br /><br />Do I feel bitter about this policy. Yes, I DID! My parents were not rich. Dad works in a shop earning a meagre salary. Everyone has to tighten belt to see my eldest sibling complete TAR college. She then get a job and support the next sibling through higher education and the musical chair continued to the last sibling. That's how my siblings and I managed to get educated. Life was definitely not handed over to us on a platter. I grew up feeling that life would have been different if I had different skin colour. "Melayu pergi mampus" would not be an unusual thought then.<br /><br />Do I feel bitter now? Not anymore! I am my own person now. I earn a decent living, lovely family and am living in a place where everyone has a decent shot at life regardless of race. I didn't get where I am because of race or skin colour. I am where I am because of recognition of my skills and ability. I am very comfortable having people from different countries as my colleagues and seeing myself as equals, no need any special rights for me. My children will also feel the same.<br /><br />Now, there's no need for "melayu pergi mampus" for me. We will all mampus on day and meet our maker.<br /><br />Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-11197669359500542712010-10-09T23:27:04.224+11:002010-10-09T23:27:04.224+11:00Being a muslim from East msia and got educated in ...Being a muslim from East msia and got educated in west Msia and oversea....I think I can easily agree with your stand that intergration among the races need to start from young(sebelum rebung jadi bulu).East malaysia is very well intergrated even before the indepedence...there are lots of inter marriages btw races and religions...and I hope the politicians do not destroy it...I believe that protectionism towards race to the extreme is not gonna have a good outcome..it makes them weak(macam anak manja too dependent) and I support YB Nurul's stand ie to liberate the mind instead.I hope we can bring meaningful change to this otherwise great nation.so dont forget to vote guys!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-9224859020087639962010-10-09T22:57:11.123+11:002010-10-09T22:57:11.123+11:00Hemm..it seems there are some chinese who are unab...Hemm..it seems there are some chinese who are unable to digest the context of the article. It sums up perfectly how they were thought to think in the Malaysian schools. Poor chinas, look beyond the title. Don't disgrace your race! Ada paham ka Cina? <br /><br />I am one of the "Keling" which the "Kerbau Malays" used to address us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-66646256735989343372010-10-09T22:51:43.922+11:002010-10-09T22:51:43.922+11:00The fate of the country is sealed if the current g...The fate of the country is sealed if the current government continues to be in power, constitutionally or otherwise. All the signs are that the ruling UMNO wants the status quo maintained.<br />Basic prosperity of a country depends on two major factors; natural resources and/or human capital. The former will be severely depleted once our oil reserves are gone in 5 to 10 years. The human capital is gradually emigrating in the thousands every month. Scores of engineers, accountants, IT specialists and doctors have left, and many more are contemplating to leave. Just ask you middle class friends and you will be alarmed at how many young taleneted Chinese and Indians are thinking of leaving.So what is left will be a country in a ' middle income' trap with the danger that it may fall into a failed state category.It will be a tragic day, if our citizens have to migrate to far away lands to work as maids or manual labourers. Malaysia is a beautiful country but unfortunately is being destroyed by a group of selfish racial bigots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-80304990953974540682010-10-09T22:45:35.437+11:002010-10-09T22:45:35.437+11:00Some of the responses to this article is unbelieva...Some of the responses to this article is unbelievable. Please read carefully before responding. When I was in school 25 years ago, comprehension was part of the English syllabus. Maybe that's why our previous Education Minister sends his kids to Garden International...sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-75521348088174944182010-10-09T20:39:23.397+11:002010-10-09T20:39:23.397+11:00Good article but the exodus has already started......Good article but the exodus has already started.....the rich are gone,the richer middle class chinese are making plans to migrate spore,australia etc.In 10 years time no many chinese will get bother what they are called bcos so few in numbers to complain about.30 years from now chinese are outnumbered by foriegn workers.50 years later they are history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-69634884006022884662010-10-09T19:41:19.269+11:002010-10-09T19:41:19.269+11:00Thank you for your very insightful article, saudar...Thank you for your very insightful article, saudara Hussein - can I call you that, or shall I call you "Abang Hussein?"<br /><br />Yes, I fully agree with you that we MUST ALL come out to vote, and not just vote, but also to vote UMNO/BN OUT! At the rate things are going - not just racial matters, this country can only go one direction, and that is DOWN! So, let everyone of us make an attempt to change for the better. Pakatan Rakyat may have their challenges, but I would think this is anytime better than BN, and especially considering that this is their first term of 'marriage' and 'service.'<br /><br />Peace and Happiness to you and your family, brother!Tim Lawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8498120352601868144.post-78980042459207344812010-10-09T19:25:37.416+11:002010-10-09T19:25:37.416+11:00Anon 4.22 "As for me I call Australia home.&q...Anon 4.22 "As for me I call Australia home."<br />Good for you mate...this country is better of without you. Good riddance. Same goes to .......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com